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Haas 2021 VF-1 vs 1988 VF-1 - Haas Automation, Inc.

A lot has changed since the first VF-1s started rolling out of the doors in Haas' Sun Valley location. A lot has changed, but then again some of the basics have stayed very much the same. Join us for a little tour through both the new and old VF-1.

Click here to reach the VF-1 web page:
https://www.haascnc.com/machines/vertical-mills/vf-series/models/small/vf-1.html

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Matthew Gowan : It'd be cool to see them both milling side by side, the 1988 VF1 programmed by hand, or with an older cam, and the modern VF1 programmed in a modern cam.
Man Machine Make : I have a 1991 VF-1 and use it every day. I just did a full teardown last year and aside from the typical wear items, it's in great shape ! Total cost for refurb was less than $500 but i did all the work myself. It's a great, reliable machine and when the time comes, i will have another Haas right there !
Love their machines, love their support, Made in AMERICA and.... Terryberry !
WCGwkf : And they wanted 50k (nearly 120k inflation adjusted) for it back then, guess the computer parts made it pricey. I just bought a 99 SL20 from the original owner they said they paid 60k new
Elliot Schmidt : As someone with 2 1993 VF-3 Mills, this was a fun video. Really makes you realize just how much has changed! But also how little has since I can run a program I post today on that same machine that was built 28 years ago.
Thomas Melnick : I thought the selling price was $49,999. back in 1989?
I thought one of the coolest things was you could hook up a Haas rotary table to the machine and it worked.
Also the graphics was a big deal to me.
Sure it was simple but it worked no crashes. It was fun.

Vise Maintenance = Good Parts - Haas Automation Tip of the Day

This TOD addresses a very straight forward topic. Cleaning and maintaining your vise is an important step that most of us unfortunately neglect more often than not. Mark shows us just how easy it is to get this done and have a little peace of mind about our vise longevity and proper part clamping.

TOD - Mill Soft Jaws (where we show basic cleaning steps)


TOD - How To Square Your Vise


Haas HKDX-6 Vise web page:
https://www.haascnc.com/haas-tooling/mill_workholding/vises/05-0404.html

Kurt DX-6 Vise Operators Manual:
https://2fkp3u2iouqr3w74v5k31xy1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/2021-DX6-Manual-7-19-21.pdf

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geo1962 : Good video but you missed something about the set screw in the moving jaw. Kurt only uses one set screw in their vises, but I've seen many Kurt clone vises that use two set screws - one inside for adjustment and one outside to lock the inner one. And this is not at all obvious, if you don't know.
Also, I would tighten that set screw more than Mark did - I don't want that moving jaw lifting at all, but not so tight that the moving jaw doesn't move smoothly. Thank-you Mark and Haas for these excellent videos.
Thomas Henderson : I could watch Mark take out the rubbish and still find it interesting!
Cole Hawkins : Great video, thanks guys.
Кирилл Орлов-Львовский : Thank you for your new video. Plese, doing russian subtitre.
Felix F : Excellent video. I really need to do this.

Haas VMT-750 Cutting Demo - Haas Automation, Inc.

The Haas VMT-750 vertical mill/turn center combines the rigid structure of our VF-5 vertical machining center with the robust spindle of our ST-15 big-bore turning center to create a versatile multi-tasking center for machining complex parts in a single setup.

Click here to reach the VMT-750 web page:
https://www.haascnc.com/machines/vertical-mills/vertical-mill-turn/models/vmt-750.html

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KS Analytical Systems : I guess I'm in the minority on this one. It's like a live tool lathe, but with a huge tool set that's super fast to change out and has no turret interference problems.

I get that it might not be the best 5 axis VMC or the best lathe, but for a lot of applications, it's a one-shot solution to a lot of problems.
Mitchell Nunnari : Wow, Haas really just went full cheap mode didn't they. Essentially threw a spindle and rotating head on a VMC casting and support structure and called it a day.
Oil Consultant : Doesn’t sound like it is the most rigid of machines, I’m sure the price reflects it
Max Idontwanna : I was really looking forward to Haas building a mill turn, and I cant say I'm impressed with this design. The mills are terrible for rigidity, while the lathe castings are somewhat better. Wrong platform!
Christopher Huffman : I remember seeing this machine when it was shown during the live streams last year, and originally I thought this could be a cool concept given it is a completely different approach. However the more that I study it, it feels more gimmicky than anything else. Sure, the HSK spindle and the ability to have a huge tool carousel is a plus, but the overall machine seems very poorly thought out and poorly executed. This is just my opinion, but to the engineering teams at Haas please hear me out.

The whole point of a mill-turn machine this day in age is to do complex components that would be hard to do on a 4th axis in a vertical, or reduce setups and have an un-maned machine. This machine does lean towards the the complex part category to an extent, but given the spindle is mounted on a traditional vertical frame, you are loosing so much rigidity and weight capacity of the components that could be machined on such a setup. Add to the fact there appears to be no sign of a steady rest or tailstock, the limitations of this thing are going to lean itself to parts only 5 to 6 inches long. I could see the appeal of this in a robot set up doing first op work, but I really do not see how this would be an improvement over a traditional lathe with live tooling.

On the flip side of that, running unmanned production on this thing (aside from the scenario mentioned above with a robot loader) would be nearly impossible. Given the table is constantly moving, it would be extremely hard to bar feed the machine in the traditional sense. Also, most mill turn machines have an option of a sub spindle for complete one and done machining. Given the spindle head takes up half the table area, it might be tricky to fit a sub spindle on this machine.

Now lets get to the overall build of the machine. As others here have mentioned, it is hard to ignore the tool flex seen as that roughing insert enters the cut. Tool deflection is something we all deal with, but the stick out of the tools from the spindle just to clear the two spindle heads does not help the situation. Furthermore, a boring bar in a collet chuck? I really do not see how any company would feel like this was a good option over the other mill turn options out there from Doosan, Mazak, or Okuma.

With all of this said, let me propose a different approach to a Haas mill turn if I were to design and build it. First, take an ST lathe base (20, 30, 30L, etc) and add the spindle head for both the main and sub onto the machine. Instead of installing the wedge for the turret, design a riser and utilize the saddle and carriage structure from the UMC line to give you the X, Y, and Z travel the machine would need. You could then utilize the rotational ability of the spindle off this machine to complete the design. This gives you the same 5 axis capability based on a real lathe platform. This would allow complete unmanned operation and compatibility with the Haas Bar Feeder. If you build a mill turn with the aforementioned features, I think it would grab the attention of shops who have not gotten into that sort of machine and change the whole industry, just like the UMC-750 did when it was launched.

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